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Research & Action Report Spring/Summer 2008 Erika Kates, who recently joined the Wellesley Centers for Women (WCW) as a senior research scientist, previously served as research director at the Center for Women in Politics and Public Policy at the University of Massachusetts Boston. Her fields of most extensive experience include women in prison and the effect on women of the intersecting policies of welfare, workforce development, and higher education. She has published extensively, especially on the latter subject. The Educational Development Center recently included her in a book featuring 20 people who have made significant contributions to gender equity in education. Kates has taught at Smith College, University of Massachusetts Amherst and Boston, and Tufts University. She holds a Ph.D. from the Heller School for Social Policy and Management at Brandeis University, a diploma from the Architectural Association, London, and a B.Sc.(hons) from the University of London. You are joining Monica Driggers in reactivating the Gender and Justice Project at the Wellesley Centers for Women. Will the project’s agenda remain the same? What were you doing before you came to WCW, and how did you begin working with Monica? What’s the core of your own professional interest? How did you arrive at your focus on impoverished women and confined women? It was also the era of Nixon’s war against crime, and I became the first criminal justice planner hired in Massachusetts. I did a lot of work with the police, the courts, houses of correction, and probation, researching and collecting data on funded programs. It was a very exciting time. I was close to some interesting experiments and changes: pre-trial diversion, juvenile justice, alternative schools, community policing – a lot of those ideas were developed during those years. That period also saw the dawning realization that women in the criminal justice system had special needs. And I ran a pre-trial diversion program for women in the Boston courts. Does that mean the program offered women an option to going to trial? What was next? What kind of activism were you looking at? These lessons have stayed with me; they’ve been very important. The prison system is set up so that women are infantilized in many ways. The women in one prison were allowed to request materials from the legal library of the men’s prison, which was across the street, but they had to go through a tortuous process to actually have the books sent over. Their own library was thoroughly deficient, although Supreme Court decisions have said that all prisoners must have access to full legal resources. How did you expand your work to include women on welfare and their access to higher education? I was working and teaching at Smith at the time, and Mount Holyoke was nearby. Both of those colleges had women on welfare, and so did three community colleges in the area. Women from each of those colleges and I connected with a similar group from UMass Boston and created an informal statewide organization with the goals of the students’ supporting each other and influencing state policy. Shortly after, the Smith students decided to form an official organization, the Association of Low-Income Students, or ALIS. What kinds of policy did these students help change? There was also a big problem with federal policy, in which food stamps were considered income and therefore counted against federal aid. They shouldn’t have been, but many financial aid advisors didn’t know that. So another group of students from an array of Massachusetts colleges launched a campaign called “Let them eat books,” because many low-income students were having to choose between requesting food stamps and losing income, on one hand, and having enough money to buy books but not food, on the other. Fortunately, Congress soon acted to clarify the law – but the misunderstanding still lingers. Then I did a national study and found similar movements and support groups, many of them student-initiated, all over the country. Eventually, I was able to describe the framework of a supportive educational environment for low-income women students with children. This information was widely disseminated through articles I wrote, and I presented it in Washington at a special congressional meeting. There really are very basic survival skills that women students can share with each other, and important administrative supports that can be provided. For example, the manager of a women-in-transition program in a community-college setting told me, “You always need to have a refrigerator with food in it. Women run out of money. I always have bread, peanut butter, and jelly.” You said that subsequently there were changes in federal welfare policy limiting the access of women on welfare to higher education. What were those changes? What was your response? Finally, the regulations were changed. By 2004, all women on welfare could fulfill their so-called work requirement through 12 months of education and training – but the required hours were increased to 24 or 30 hours a week. Since a full-time course load in higher education is never more than 12 or at most 16 hours in the classroom, the regulations had to be interpreted to include homework and travel. But some case managers interpreted the act to mean women not only had to go to school full-time, but had to work as well! And there were other problems with understanding and implementing the regulations. In 2006, when I had been at UMass Boston for several years, I decided to do a small case study in Boston among women of color and immigrants who said they particularly wanted and needed education, to see what these women on welfare knew about the regulations and to what extent they could take advantage of them. Using participatory evaluation research, we found that very, very few of these women had been correctly informed by their caseworkers about their rights to education of any kind, even basic English at a high-school level. Then I looked at statewide data to see whether the participation of women on welfare in education, both basic and post-secondary, had increased under the new regulations – and I found that it had actually decreased! I also interviewed 13 welfare, higher education, and workforce administrators in Boston. What I learned was that yes, there was this policy offering women access to education, but no, it wasn’t being implemented. And there was a lot of confusion about how it should even be interpreted. We then presented these data to a task force of Massachusetts women legislators, the new commissioner of public transitional assistance, and four other major Massachusetts policy makers in higher education and workforce development. What kind of response did you get? You said earlier that your project with Boston women of color and immigrants used participatory evaluation research. What is that, and why use it? It takes a tremendous amount of work to train appropriate low-income research-team members – to find them, work with them, to get them to trust or even discuss research – but they’re very valuable. They help ensure that our research questions are tactful, the tone is respectful, and the language is accessible. Their leadership of focus groups helps minimize the social distance between researchers and the “researched,” and that encourages fuller participation. And it’s really thrilling to see some of them get turned on by how exciting research can be and how valuable and helpful it can be in their lives, and by the skills they learn in doing it. Low-income women and women of color were compensated participants in all phases of the Boston project – project planning, recruiting and training community researchers, recruiting focus-group participants, conducting focus groups, writing research notes, analyzing results, and disseminating the final analysis. Looking ahead, what kind of new projects would you and Monica most like to work on? Another idea we’ve discussed is looking at how parole of women works in Massachusetts. Women need not a sequential track of services, but a holistic array of them that addresses all their issues together. Parole isn’t set up to do that very well, but some jurisdictions are trying, and I’d like to look at those efforts. In the broader view, Monica and I are doing a Massachusetts needs assessment. We’ve talked to many colleagues in the field to find out who’s doing what and who needs what. In the process we’re finding out about potential collaborators. Besides forging ahead in our own directions, we want to further an agenda that others find useful. |


